Modalics Launch MINDst DRUMS With $99 Intro Price

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Modalics MINDst Drums is a realistic drum plugin for Windows and macOS priced at $99 during the intro sale (you can get an additional 10% OFF with coupon code Modalics10).

MINDst is Modalics’ innovative sampler engine, developed to transcend traditional sample-based drum instruments by intuitively understanding the drummer’s musical intent. It meticulously analyzes tempo, note placement, drum choice, and more to select and blend the perfect samples in real-time.

MINDst Drums is Modalics’s first release using their new sampler engine. They plan to release expansions, new kits, and possibly even other instruments that utilize the same technology soon.

We are taking a closer look at MINDst Drums and offering one free copy to one lucky BPB reader. Thank you to Modalics for sponsoring this giveaway.

The developer says MINDst Drums “stands out in its ability to authentically emulate the sound of an acoustic drum set and the feel of a virtuoso drummer playing it.”

MINDst Drums is designed to seamlessly fit into your productions with little or no customization or complex programming. 

Modalics states that the versatility in dynamics, choice of kit and cymbals, and unique algorithms make this sampler sound extremely realistic without the need for complex programming.

As a result of this design, MINDst Drums excels at delivering dynamic, virtuoso-like performances, especially in genres like rock, funk, and metal.

Modalics packed MINDst Drums full of ~50,000 samples, so the amount of “dynamic layers, round robins and deep customization options make the kit feel alive and sound exciting even when playing the same loop for a long time.”

This enormous library is leveraged through how the plugin’s algorithm selects which samples to use at a given time. 

One example of this is that the hi-hat plays a different closed sample depending on how long ago it was opened.

Another is that each drum in the kit was sampled from silence and from a previous resonance, and the algorithm selects the correct sample for each part of the kit according to its sustain.

As a result of this design, rolls and buildups sound “convincing and harmonious.”

The samples were performed by Israeli session drummer and educator Doron Giat on his one of a kind DW custom kit along with cymbals “of his own design”. The latter were presumably chosen from the 13 cymbals he designed for Bosphorus Cymbals.

Modalics said that Giat’s “virtuosity and attention to nuance underline every hit that we captured for MINDst Drums, and he is an integral part of what makes MINDst Drums feel so alive and groovy.”

Upon the plugin’s release in November 2023, the developer stated that the 16-bit version is a 5 GB download that extracts to 10.4 GB, while the 24-bit version is a 20.6 GB download that extracts to 28.4 GB.

MINDst Drums is a 64-bit-only release available for Windows (standalone, VST, VST3, AAX) and macOS (standalone, VST, VST3, AAX, AU).

More info: MINDst Drums

The Giveaway

Modalics kindly provided a free copy of MINDst Drums to one lucky BPB reader.

To enter the giveaway, please:

  1. Subscribe to the Modalics newsletter (the signup form is at the bottom).
  2. In the comments below, please answer this question: How close can a virtual drum kit get to sounding as good as the real thing?

Both steps need to be completed to enter the giveaway.

We will randomly pick the winner on May 5th, 2024. Please ensure you entered the correct email address so we can contact you if you win.

Good luck, everyone, and thank you for reading BPB.

The winner is: Pedro! Congratulations! Modalics will soon deliver your prize via email.

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155 Comments

  1. Omar Omotion

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    It can get really close, but the difficulty is with the performance. But I think only musicians & producers will really be able to hear the difference between a solidly performed/programmed virtual drum kit, and a real one.

    • Today’s drum sampler plugins can get incredibly close to the real thing now. The quality and depth of the sampling is very important, but also the playing techniques. Ultimately, someone who can play the real thing is best placed to program drum tracks that sound realistic as they’ll be familiar with all the subtleties that playing a drum kit can provide.

      • Peter Dillon-Parkin

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        The truth is that for most listeners authenticity is immaterial. They have spent their lives listening (for the most part) to heavily-produced records that use drum software, sequenced/stacked drum hits etc. This is not a criticism, but an observation. It’s only cranks like me who care about realism, and that’s probably just my age. This sounds very good indeed, and I’ll probably buy it eventually, to add to the other 20-odd ways I have of making beats. I’m just not sure realism is as big a deal as the makers do. But I’m glad they’ve done it.

        • Depends on the genre. I would not use it for an intimate jazz session – but let’s see if Modalics might surprise me ;)

      • in some cases it can come so close to the real thing that one can’t hear the difference…it’s incredible what is possible these days…

    • It will ultimately depend on the producer how close it sounds to the real kit. Utilizing techniques such as velocity and volume control, and the timing of notes can make it sound real close to a real kit.

    • I think synth drums have come a long way, baby. Played properly, they can be indistinguishable from acoustic drums… just my two cents!

    • Alvaro Abraham

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      yes i agree. they can get failrly close. i know of a person who has worked on an album and he used all digital drums instead live physical drums. the difference is barely visible.

    • Peter Paul

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      How close can a virtual drum kit get to sounding as good as the real thing?
      It is the real thing.

  2. Matthew Seery

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    Sounds of virtual drum kits can be very impressive. Some can even emulate overhead microphones to balance in with each individual microphone for each piece of the kit. However as a drummer, I still have to use a midi drum kit to get a more natural feel rather than using fingers on a keyboard or touch pad.

  3. George Boukis

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    I`ve been using drum libraries for a long time and they get closer and closer to the real thing! Thanks!!

  4. Little variations in velocity and timing add that human touch, even the best drummers don’t have perfect and mechinical timing

  5. Said it before randomly picking a winner discourages from writing quality comments.
    As for realism, a good virtual kit will need quality velocity layers, quality room mics for ambience, and smart grooves with variation controls to adjust the pocket.

  6. Virtual drum sounds are becoming more amazing and surprisingly versatile. Additionally, each available sound can be edited and adjusted to taste.

  7. I think it can really get very detailed and close to the real set. It really comes down to sample quality, velocity control and round robin in my opinion.

  8. Brandon Boucher

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    They can get close enough if I work at that and just don’t eq the hell out of a loop. Varying the velocities is key.

  9. I think the key to a convincing drum track is a combination of the quality of the virtual kit, the performance, and the mixing effects applied to the drums; because you can use midi captured from a real drummer and still end up with drums that sound “off”; because the mix doesn’t sound right, or what was recorded for the virtual kit just isn’t up to the task.

  10. They can come extremely close with slight variations by randomizing between many multisamples at each midi volume level instead of just one, and slight random modulation of volume, filter, pitch, formant, and transient parameters.

  11. Well, a virtual drum kit can sound really good or “real”. Performance is the problem. So, no. But, I actually don’t care as long as it fits the music both sound and performance wise. Finally, a real drummer can sound great even if they use cardboard boxes for drums :)

  12. I’ve used some Slate’s drums and Riot drums’ plugins and they sound good, but hearing this plugin I feel it very realistic. Maybe we can realize it is a VST by paying attention to the velocity in the recording. I don’t own MINDst, but so far, it’s the best drums plugin I have heard.

  13. it depends mostly on the player(programmer) feeling and experience. Accurated midi tracks with subtle playing nuances and human touch can be really close to real drums playing(…if you have excellent samples)

  14. Virtual drum kits have come a long way in replicating the sound of acoustic drums. I think they sound really close nowadays, but what matters most to me is their convenience and versatility.

  15. it depends on player (programmer) feeling and experience. Having excellent samples, accurate midi tracks with subtle nuances, human touch and knowledge of real drums playing can be very close to real drums playing.

  16. Milton Grimshaw

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    Modern sampled drumsets can sound close to a real drummer as long as you allow the subtle timing nuances and accenting on each and every note played, the overall sound is better when played in a live way in a studio.

  17. A virtual drumkit can often sound better than a real kit, as a real kit has so many hard to control variables. Drum kit mic-ing can become a slog…

  18. The best samples get very close to the real thing. But what do listeners care? If you can get your groove on, who really cares?

    • Pretty darn close, I use get good drums with nux dp 2000 drum pads and it changed the way I write drums for my ‘songs’ :D

  19. Phil Phantom

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    So far, pretty close. I hope things progress on the cymbal synthesis front. Synthesized drums have gotten to the point now that they can pass for acoustic drums, but cymbals, particularly the sound of an already ringing cymbal being hit, that’s the sticking point. Great job so far, everybody.

  20. Virtual drums come close enough to the real thing that you’d need a well-trained ear and a very good set of speakers to be able to tell the difference. For a small home studio with limited room treatment, virtual drums are probably the better option at this point.

  21. Mathew Cotterill

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    They can get very close, with regards to performance, when incorporating multiple velocity layers and round robin alterations for each drum trigger. A big part of how good they will sound though is undoubtedly the actual recordings of properly tuned drums, which is probably the most important, along with appropriate microphone placement and model choice, good sounding industry standard pre amps like neve’s and api’s, ( I’m a big fan of neve’s for snares, overheads and room microphones and API’s for the rest, especially
    toms) appropriate equalisation with the preamps mentioned, along with subtractive equalisation for resolving room resonances issues (a GML 8200 is a good choice) should give a balanced and pleasing tonal balance. To top it off, some decent compressors like the DBX 160s for kick, 1176’s for snares and distressors for either, will give a polished drum sound. There are also arguments for going as clean and as unprocessed as possible so the end user will have more room to play with, I guess this depends on what the target audience will be. Some will want the drum sounds to be a dry as possible so they can do their own processing to fit the song, others will want ready made “presets” so they can get up and running as fast as possible. I think a nice balance can be struck and a good example of this is Addictive drums 2.

  22. I think the sound can get really close with algorithms such as Modalics has implemented and high quality samples.

  23. Virtual drum kits can sound remarkably close to the real thing, offering high-quality samples, realistic dynamics, and extensive customization options. While they may not fully replicate the tactile experience of acoustic drums, advancements in technology have narrowed the gap considerably, making virtual drum kits a viable and convenient option for many musicians and producers. With careful programming and attention to detail, virtual drum performances can rival the authenticity of live drum recordings in many contexts.

  24. Soundwise I think there is no problem. VST instruments can sound fenomenal without the burden of having a decent recording space, decent drums that are well tuned, miking and all that jazz. The issue i often hear is lacking an understanding of how a real drum is supposed to sound. If you strive for realism, you should know at least how a drumkit is played, and try to reconstruct that. I am a guitar player, but i always wanted to play the drums too. After a lot of years of midi keyboard finger drumming, not too long ago i bought myself a Launchpad X in order to teach myself to finger drum. I made a custom map that reflects the positioning of the drum kit peaces, and started to learn some simple songs, paradiddles etc. It improved my understanding of drumwork so much more. I think the key is that. You should know how a drumkit should or could sound, the same way you should know how an orchestra plays and sounds, in order to make an orchestral mockup, or everything else for that matter.

  25. I think it can get close, sure, but I don’t think you’ll ever be able to take human passion out of the loop.

  26. During the lockdown years I used some virtual drum kits for one of my songs for the first time. I was hesitant initially but I had to finish the production to release on International Peace Day in September, and I didn’t have the option for a live recording then. I was surprised how masterfully the kits are sampled! I recently recorded a drums session and we are currently layering it with virtual kits. I think it absolutely is quite close to the real thing and adds so much value in the process of creating in this day and age. After Beat Scholar, I am so looking forward to experiencing MINDst Drums!

  27. A virtual drum kit can sound pretty close to the real thing, but it may not fully capture all the nuances and subtleties of a physical drum set.

  28. Mickey Williams

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    Played with an electronic kit, even an inexpensive one, a expressive player can pull off something convincing.

  29. Bruce Gammon

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    I think if you spend the time with velocity settings, tuning and sound sculpting you can make VST drums sound very, very close to the real deal. Time is needed to “humanize” a VST drum performance.

  30. Knowme & C_Quin

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    Signed up for the newsletter – We think that it’s a careful balance between the live playing veterans and the ability to be flexible in your compositions. But with time and patience (just like with a “real” drum kit), you should be able to produce satisfying results.

  31. You can add more data to be captured during a performance on a MIDI drum kit. Something like mpe or aftertouch that can be captured and/or manipulated with automation.

  32. Pretty close nowadays if you ask me, especially if the playing velocities are well programmed to emulate how a real drummer hits his set!

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  34. Patrik Roncolato

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    I think that drummers can make the most of a drum plugin. It’s a matter of knowing your instrument. Sounds are nowadays dope so… A good drum plugin can sound even better than the real one!

  35. I think sampled drums often sound over produced compared to the perception of acoustic drums in a room or live, and it very much comes down to context. The imperfections are often what gives authenticity. Sample a cheap kit in a badly treated room capturing all the nuances, buzzes, overtones, tuning wobble, etc. That is going to be more convincing, but not necessarily right for every context/production.

  36. As close as 90% if well programmed and if the drum parts are written thinking like a drummer, badly written drum parts will make the drums sound fake as much as using bad samples.

  37. With todays sampling techniques and formats it can get as reala as it can, all it depends upon playabilty

  38. I think with AI we’ll be getting very close in the next couple of years, it’s already very close with the correct programming!

  39. Virtual drum kits can sound very close to the real thing, thanks to high-quality samples, dynamic response, realistic modeling, and humanization features. However, they may still lack some of the physicality and subtle interactions of acoustic drums. Overall, they offer a practical and versatile alternative without compromising significantly on sound quality.

  40. Robert Ravino

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    My acoustic kit has been gathering dust for the past two years. E-kit is definitely the way to go. No more headaches! Record, Play and listen to a professionally engineered drum set.

  41. Mikael Fredriksson

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    Its close! Maybe not “as good ” but even better in some ways, and with consistency and tweaking abilities!

  42. Eric Squires

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    Drum vsts can get pretty close to sounding realistic these days if you have good samples and take the time to properly program them.

  43. The quality of the vst libraries is outstanding. They are often indistinguishable from real drums. I’ll be glad to have such a good instrument. :)

  44. The virtual drum set now sounds much “better” in many ways and this is partly the problem. The liveliness of the sound is lost.

  45. I consider that at the production level the current technology is practically indistinguishable from a real battery. Another thing is if we start playing, it is impossible for it to sound like real drums, because as soon as you mic it the sound changes. I don’t know if it can ever be imitated.

  46. I believe it is now possible to perfectly mimic, a “real” drum kit -virtually. With highest-end, quality sampled sounds, the burden then lies upon the accuracy and dynamics, of the hardware – if playing an electronic kit.

    In the virtual environment, there is no difference between “real” and “Virtual” -IMHO.

    Is it “live” or is it “Memorex”?

  47. Pretty close but it really depends on the production style you’re going for. I’m pretty sure Jimi Hendrix would still prefer a live drummer if he were alive today, in my opinion.

  48. I think is really difficult at this moment to know virtual or real drums in many cases. It’s amazing for replacements of drums recordings in bad situations or noise environments.

  49. I think VST drum kits can sound very realistic, more realistc than most virtual instruments. Things like cymbal rolls are harder to get right. This kit by Modalics sounds really good!

  50. Drum VSTs have come very close to replicating the real thing. If you have no access to a drummer and kit, you can get great results, with a little tinkering. I’m hoping to find out how good MINDst is

  51. Avecv les outils disponibles en mixage et un bon plugin bien échantilloné, je pense qu’on ne peut pas faire la différence dans un mix complet.

    • As long as the sampling is accurate and detailed, you can create as accurate as possible from a directional source, aka a dynamic driver. If an electrostatic or planar magnetic driver is used you can get even faster attack and closer to the real thing. So it’s very possible to provide an indistinguible experience of live drums from a sample pack to a listener if the conditions are met. On top of that, the level of adjustment for digitized drums is as expansive as the electric guitar is to acoustic.

  52. I posted once but it seems my comment isn’t showing up. It depends on the recording quality, direction, spacial acoustics and then the ability of the driver (speaker) to reproduce said sounds. I won’t go into more detail as I already did so, but suffice to say it’s actually more capable once digitized for modulation, akin to the electric guitar compared to the acoustic.

  53. Very close. As a session drummer and producer, I use my electronic kit with various free sample libraries to record and produce drum tracks for bands and individuals around the world. With the feel of a real drummer and a well-sampled and programmed kit, it’s impossible for the average listener to tell the difference. MINDst sounds awesome!

  54. Real Trepanier

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    MINDst Drums is a highly realistic sounding drum plug-in that stands out in its ability to authentically emulate the sound of an acoustic drum set and the feel of a virtuoso drummer playing it.

  55. Marcio Morais

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    It’s something really complicated to get perfectly, as there are many features that make the task very difficult, such as speed, volume control, attack areas, among other points. Without adding to this math, the capacity and individuality of each one when in a real battery but, plugins are getting better and exceptional!

  56. The sounds themselves can be very close, but the realism depends on the nuances available for use by the player.

  57. Todo depende de la habilidad, creatividad y experiencia del productor, de nada sirve tener el mejor vst Drums si el productor no sabe ritmos, fills, no sabe humanizar la bateria, y en definitva no sabe usar el VST, ya que alguien con los conocimientos apropiados la puede hacer sonar bastante real, y el publico casi que impercetiblemente se dara cuenta que es una bateria virtual.

  58. So close now to live drums. In its early stages, very robotic with that “sound of a toy” but now, an amazing progress.

  59. How close can a virtual drum kit get to sounding as good as the real thing?

    Re: Very depends on MIDI programming and mixing skills. Such as Ghost Notes, you need to adjust the velocity very carefully. And also sometimes making the note not on the grid can be more close to a human performance.

  60. If it is well programmed it can work pretty well in a mix. It will get the job done but i really appreciate an amazing performance by a real drummer.

  61. Answer: A couple things; good room reverb, and matching the style a drummer would have. I loooove programming drums. I’ve been doing it for years. I started with MT Power drums 2, now I’m using Steven Slate’s kit. I always try to make them lively like my favorite drum parts in songs. Every little nuance adds life to a drum part; the ghost notes, velocity variations, the relationship between the kit and the bass part. So yeah, good room reverb, and a fun and lively drum groove will work very, very well.

  62. Vinícius Lessa

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    It’s actually almost impossible for the final audience to notice it’s not a real drum, cause it’s actually a real sampled drum, but what metters more (besdes the quality of the samples) it’s the MIDI programming to be convincent.

  63. Success Ajayi

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    It can actually be so realistic and close to the original kit if the right emulation of human articulation is added to the workflow and programming.

  64. Capio O´Neill

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    Hola. Cada dia avanzan mas y hoy por hoy está fenomenal para poder mostrar desde un inocio lo que uno quiere acercándose al punto final mucho. Gracias por todo tu trabajo.

  65. Just programming it is not the real thing, but by adjusting the timing and velocity as if a drummer were actually playing, it can be made very close to the real thing.

  66. A virtual drum kit gets like 90-95% minus perhaps some extreme rhythmic intricacies of a more complex song. IMO.

  67. They can get close enough then ,,,,i need to create my drumsound better then all .
    :-) so ….Vst Drumsounds must be good …….:-)
    Pretty close them I need it :-)

  68. In my opinion how close it gets comes down to the quality of the drummer performing AND arranging the drum piece in the DAW.

  69. Patricio Mixt

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    I think virtual drum kits nowadays can be pretty much indistinguishable from acoustic drums. It all depends on the plugin’s built-in capabilities or the musician/producer’s choices regarding randomization offsets, reverb, variations and sample selection.

  70. Patricio Mixt

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    It can be indistinguishable. It all depends on the plug-in’s capabilities or the musician/producer’s choices regarding randomization offsets, reverb and sample selection.

  71. Soundwise very close, but the key element in any midi based instrument is the soul. Anyone can play a tambourine but knowing when to play and the right way to play to involve soulfulness… that is the rub. Only soulfulness can remove the mundane factors of a midi instrument. From what I can see of this instrument and from playing the Modalics drum sequencer, deep playback is possible. If the software doesn’t allow the soulfulness to be expressed then it will never go beyond being a drum loop. With the depth comes a drum part, fully expressive and soulful and authentic. I would really love to add this instrument to my other modalics software. Then I will only have one company I turn to for designing rhythms .

  72. MR.NOTCHILLUST

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    Drums can be any sound tuned just gotta be creative and software drum can be manipulated in many ways so i would say then can sound better or worst both giving a satisfying results…….

  73. Very, very close IMO if not better in many instances, especially for those without the space or proper room for recording acoustic drums like me.

  74. It can get really close concerning the sound of the kit and enviroment.
    The difficulties lies in capturing the human aspect of the performance; the nuances of imperfection.

  75. Currently it is difficult (but not impossible) to detect the difference between a virtual drum and a real one, however the virtual drum is too close to sounding like a real one, its sounds are beautiful

  76. Currently it is difficult (but not impossible) to detect the difference between a virtual drum and a real one, however the virtual drum is too close to sounding like a real one, its sounds are beautiful

  77. It can get as close to the real thing as you want. With the right eq, compression, etc. it can sound not only realistic, but in the context of a mix, it can 100% pass as the real thing.

  78. Very soon the new generation of KI-based plugins will make it almost impossible to tell the difference between generated and live or studio drumming.

  79. With a lot of production effort to add the subtle details, basically to make it more human.
    The playing dynamics is an essential part of this, so always spend time on the velocity

  80. A virtual drum kit can get very close (to sounding as good as the real thing) in using it properly! There are so many subtleties and minor adjustments that can be made to enhance the feel and sound of the real drummer sound. You just have to work it!

  81. Tristan G.

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    Today, virtual drums can get as close as 98% of the real drums.
    From my point of view, the missing 2% are on subtle human details and imperfections.

  82. Carter Froman

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    I think that it is only a matter of time before a virtual drum kit is indistinguishable from a human drummer playing live drums. I know people don’t ever want want to think that it’s possible to replicate the human element, but with AI and modern programming, we seem to be getting closer all the time. Would love to be able to check out this plugin, as it seems really cool.

  83. The gap has been closer from today with the technology, making it more realistic, in feel and tone.

  84. Acmedrygoods

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    Close enough. And, since I’m not a drummer that is good enough. Actually it really depends on the plug-in. Even in my hands a good virtual drum plug-in with the right grooves is pretty human.

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